goes by the name preachers wife said" Mary is the earthly mother of Jesus. Not the mother of God." I thought Christians believed in the Holy Trinity. And if so then Jesus is God, remember, They are one. I could not believe she said that. And I still bet that if I ask her husband to pray for me he would not have a problem with that.
I don't think anyone has a problem with praying for you because you are catholic.... God teaches us to love everyone as i said in my last posted question... But to me (me) Jesus said No one comes to the father, but through him and also what we do we are suppose to do in Jesus name. I wont have a problem praying for you or anyone else... I pray for unsaved people, so why would you be an exception... ignorance rules some (but not all) people =)
Do you pray to Mary in Hebrew?
Look - there are many, many problems with the concept of praying to anyone other than God/Jesus.
If you honestly want to know the biggest issue, try creating the biblical argument FOR praying to Mary. The bible says the prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much, but nowhere can you make the argument that people in heaven can hear you.
And how did Jesus teach us to pray? "Our father..."
You read this book and you will see the woman the Catholic church has created. That is why. Christ's death and Resurrection took away the need for any intermediary between man and God. We can pray to God for ourselves.
This is a very deep question... Mary is the earthly mother of Jesus who is supposed to be the earthly representative of the trinity, the holy ghost is the spiritual representative and the father is the ruling host of the trinity under which all abides. The trinity itself is god, however we as humans cannot understand the proper nature of such a complex story and thus have to break it up into bits... Your compassion is Jesus, your ability to assess what is right and wrong is the holy ghost and your strength to choose between compassion and justice is god. Don't listen to preachers, listen to yourself. And your mum...
Protestants believe you should never put any figure before Jesus, including Mary and all the Saints, etc...
Many non-Catholics have a problem with us praying to Mary because they think that "pray to" means "worship". They do not understand that there is a class of prayers called intercession - asking someone to pray for you.
As regards "Mary, teh mother of God", it is simple algebra:
Mary is the mother of Jesus
Jesus is God
Therefore, Mary is the mother of God.
The phrase "Mary, mother of God" was first used to emphasize Jesus' divinity. Non-Catholics have misinterpreted this phrase as being about Mary's role in respect to Jesus. The phrase is used to reinforce the fact that Jesus is God.
Non-Catholics separate the divine from the human when it comes to Jesus. They do not understand that you cannot separate Jesus' divinity from His humanity.
Yeah I don't' get that. One second Jesus IS God therefor Mary is the mother of God but then if you bring that up all the sudden she was the mother of Jesus which isn't the same thing. Jesus either is God or he isn't. I personally think Mary deserves some credit. Jesus wouldn't have been there if it was for her.
what do you mean by non-catholics? any denomination other than catholic? or atheists. i was raised catholic and then became a born again christian after reading the bible and understanding that GOD'S WORD IS VERY CLEAR. ON THE FACT THAT PRAYING TO ANYONE OTHER THAN HIM IS CONSIDERED IDOLATRY. AND THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER IS THROUGH THE SON SO WHEN YOU PRAY,DO IT IN JESUS' NAME. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY WE ARE TO PRAY.THE BIBLE SAYS SO.
The bible does not teach prayer thru Mary.Mary is just an ordinary human used by God conceive Jesus.
There is no reference in the bible about Mary's power or influence in prayer. The bible teaches us to pray directly pray to the father thru Jesus and to nobody else.
I think the issue that they see Mary as simply being a virtuous woman but all in all a mere human, who can't intervene with the diety. Only Jesus is the intermediary in their view. It'd be like praying your grandmother or something. They don't see them as being able to do anything.
I have a problem with anyone praying for me. What a ludicrous waste of time, trying to get a message to a non-existent being is. If they want to help me, they could do something practical. And if they don't know me, they should just get their nose out of my business.
Did you know that research commissioned by a religious authority tried to prove that prayer helped ill people? The test was conducted as a double blind test, and the result was that the people who knew they were being prayed for had the highest mortality rate. Those prayed for, but not told they were being prayed for experienced no effect either way.
So much for the power of prayer.
Mary is the earthly mother of earthly Jesus. Jesus is man, Jesus is God. That is 2 different things. This dichotomy really rattled the church early on. It is unexplainable.
Mary can not be the mother of God unless she is God.
Is Mary God?
Hello sister,
I am not sure what your question is, but I have long wondered about the Catholic Church's worship of Mary as the mother of God. Undoubtedly Mary was chosen among women to become the mother of Jesus who, at the time of his mission over 2000 years ago, was a direct incarnation of Christ and First Born Son of God the Father Almighty.
I am not a Catholic, but know that Christ lives and yes, there is a Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, three separate entities, but one and the same in unity. This is a very different unity to the one we know in the world. Mary is not part of the godhead and it is the Father through Jesus Christ always to whom we must offer our invocations and prayers. Everything we ever need to know Christ will give it to us, being the light of the world.
In Christ I have known the dearest and most humble of all, the most loving, with all the divine virtues of the positive and negative, male and female, in unity with the Holy Spirit. Prayers to Mary then seem to me to be deflecting from the spiritual Master, who is Jesus Christ and it is by our adoption into His body and His alone, that we can be saved from world delusion.
You see,
Mary mothered the earthly body of Jesus Christ, not His deity. The phrase "mother of god" has connotations that are far from Biblical. Mary was in no way God and she in no way begat God. The "preacher's wife" is certainly correct.
A lot of non-Catholics have the misperception that instead of asking Mary to intercede you're praying directly to her and they're against that because they see it as idolatry.
The Councils of the Ancient Church stated clearly that if somebody does not believe that the Blessed Virgin Mary is "Theotokos" (God-Bearer, Mother of God)...they are to be "anathematized" (banished, exiled, excommunicated).
To believe that Mary was only the mother of the earthly Jesus is called "Nestorianism" - and was condemned by the early Church.
It seems "Preacher's Wife" needs some basic training in her own faith.
She made ,through God ,his earthly form.He already was God .He took on a "Tent" of Human flesh.She was a great woman ,but stop trying to "idolize" her it isn't right.
Paul says "There is ONE mediator between man and God and that is Christ Jesus".
She was not born sinless through the "apocryphal" Anna.She even says "I thank God my Savior"...saved from what? from being born in sin.
When a woman in a crowd shouted "Blessed be the woman who nursed you ".to Jesus,He didn't say "That's right ,you better venerate her now and forever!"
No ,He said "Blessed rather are those that do the work of God".
She is a wonderful wonderful person,otherwise God would not have chosen her.But ,she is not a Co- Redemptress as John Paul would have had it.She did her job,she was filled with the Holy Spirit in the Upper room in Acts two.She lived with John and his family and probably died in Ephesus.She is in heavebn waiting for the Resurrection just like all the dead in Christ.
She wasn't a perpetual virgin.Joseph didn't "know her" UNTIL Jesus was born but after that she bore James ,Joses,Simon,Jude and some daughters.No they wern't Joseph's from another marriage.
To love Mary takes nothing at all from Christ, but honors our Blessed Lord by Whose grace she is who she is: His greatest creation, the greatest of Saints, the Queen of Heaven, the Immaculate Conception, the spotless Virgin, the Ark of the Covenant, the New Eve, the mother of God, and the mother of Israel -- our mother who wants nothing more for us than to pray for us and show us her Son.
She is our spiritual Mother and she wants to pray for us.
The Hail Mary Prayer
Hail, Mary, Full of Grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the Fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.
I think it has something to do with the idea that some people are closer to god than others....kind of speaks of an inequality don't you think?
I'm not sure what exactly your question is here, but I don't understand why Catholics use all these Saints either. I just go straight to Jesus and leave it at that. Why do you need to pray to anyone but him? And why would you ask a dead person to pray for you? I understand Mary's position, but I mean come on she is just like any other human being that lived on earth and made it into heaven. She had to receive the Holy Ghost in the upper room on the day of Pentecost just like the others. Go straight to the one who can answer those prayers...Jesus Christ. Stay blessed!
In Catholocism, The Trinity is the Father (God), Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit.
We actually pray the Hail Mary for various things, and one is to end abortion.
I'm not really one to get into a deep conversation about this because I've not been a practicing Catholic for about 10 years, but this is what I remember :) Hope that clears something up.
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I asked the question, Whydo non Catholics have a problem with us asking Mary to pray for us, and a woman that? 
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