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After installing mac os 10.3, I have problems starting classic environment.

Published by: wktd 2010-03-14

  • Every time I launch classic, I get this message:"There is a problem with updating the classic specific files. Classic was unable to update its files in "system folder" on macintosh hd." Once it said "error 1024". The console log says: "localhost classic: AUTOUPDATE ERROR: count of 33 localized files and 32 universal files doesn't match" I am using an imac g4 with the 15" display. All the disk utilitues I used either said the hd was ok or that custiom icons were missing but were repaired. This installation was an upgrade from 10.2.3 to 10.3. I then upgraded it to 10.3.2 thinking classic would update itself but no luck. I only need classic for one application but it is an essential utility, "maconverter". I cant use Curious labs "poser" without this app, and most of my work involves using "Poser"
  • RAL - Mac OS X - Colby Gutierrez-Kraybill::
    Older Macintosh Programs (Mac OS 9, Mac OS X/Classic Environment) "After installing Tiger (10.4) I had difficulty reinstalling a fortran compiler."
    http://astro.berkeley.edu/~colby/howto/mac-faq.html
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    Magnet Mail Archive: Re: Mac 10.3 - G4's - Classic 9.1 & 9.2::
    Jul 6, 2004 >computers, you cannot install Mac OS 9 or start up the computer >Like most of you, we need to have both 10.3 and classic to access
    http://ls.berkeley.edu/mail/magnet/2004/0277.html
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  • For your information, Poser 5 is available for Mac OS X: http://www.curiouslabs.com/ and select "Products" at the top of the page.
  • History of Mac OS at amacgenius.com::
    Nov 1, 2005 It is the minimum for the Classic Environment in Mac OS X 10.0 and .. I have a few Quadras and it wasn’t a problem for me getting them
    http://amacgenius.com/archive/125/
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    University of Tennessee | Office of Information Technology ::
    The process for removing the Classic environment from your Mac OS X startup volume. I Can Animate is priced starting at £35 for Mac OS X 10.3 and up.
    http://oit.utk.edu/macvolplace/oldnews/200601.shtml
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  • One more thing - Rather than downloading updates manually, you can have Mac OS 9 update itself automatically by choosing Software Update under Control Panels within Mac OS 9. The program will connect to the internet, download necessary updates, and install them. You may have to do this several times to download all incremental updates. Hope this helps. - supermacman-ga


  • Ok, one big problem: I've had os 9.2.2 installed all along. My imac came with os 9.2.2 and jaguar preinstalled. The classic autoupdate failure began after I installed Panther. I just reinstalled os 9.2.2 from the os 9 install disk but the problem is still there. What about the console message that says "count of 33 localized files and 32 universal files doesn't match"-what does this mean and if I can make the files "match", could that solve the problem? I realize this is more than a clarification and that I've now asked more questions. I'll gladly pay more or just pay again and treat this as a new question. I'm not sure how to do that though. There, I just asked another question,ooops! Despite the fact that my problem isn't solved yet, I think your answers are great.


  • I did use disk utility but I did not repair permissions. I'm almost sure your advice about archiving and installing and repairing permissions is correct. So I'm going to rest up, (I've had a sore throat this week), and as soon as my mind is clearer, I'm going to follow your instructions. I think it is the only solution unless or until Panther has another upgrade. I'll let you know how it all goes. I'm not going to rush it though because if I ignore or forget one little thing, we all know how wrong things can go. Thanks for all your help. hannahlo
  • Mac OS X Porting - Kyng Chaos::
    Jun 27, 2008 Mac OS X 10.3.9 or newer. You should have installed the BSD support with a Generally, a lot of text scrolls by after starting 'make'.
    http://www.kyngchaos.com/macosx:
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    classic - Mac Support - Page 16::
    Problems Starting Classic After Installing Tiger I'm running OS 10.3.9, and I have System 9.2 for the Classic Environment.
    http://macosx.com/topics/classic-p16.html
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  • This happened to me, too. I managed to fix it without having to reinstall. Steps: 1. Find "/System/Library/CoreServices/Classic Startup" in the finder 2. Popup menu->Show Package Contents 3. The folders "./Contents/Resources/UniversalForks/" and "./Contents/Resources/English.lproj/SystemFiles" should contain files with the same names. (Some may be in subdirectories). (One of the other .lproj folders may be appropriate for you depending on your system). Somehow on mine, one of the two folders had had "CarbonLib" thrown into it. The .lproj folder contains the localized files, UniversalForks contains the universal files. It didn't like the fact that there was a file in one that wasn't in the other. I removed CarbonLib, because I was confident it didn't belong there, and everything worked. Try this at your own risk, make a back up, etc.


  • Hello, hannalo-ga! I am using Panther with Classic (Mac OS 9.2.2) and my install works fine. I will attempt to guide you through the troubleshooting of your system. First, you should tell me what version of Mac OS 9.x you are using. Is it 9.0.4? 9.1? 9.2.1? or 9.2.2? To find out, do the following: 1) Open the disk with Classic installed ("System Folder"). 2) Open "System Folder". 3) Find the file with name "System". It looks like a suitcase with a happy face on it. 4) Tell me what version is labelled there. If your system is not 9.2.2 and something less, I advise you update your Classic. If you have System 9.0.4: a) Update to System 9.1, here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75103 b) Update to System 9.2.1, here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120030 c) Update to System 9.2.2, here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75186 If you have System 9.1: a) Update to System 9.2.1, here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120030 b) Update to System 9.2.2, here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75186 If you have System 9.2.1: a) Update to System 9.2.2, here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75186 This long-winded procedure may be necessary, as documented on this page: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75288 All installs can be done by downloading the installer files, booting into Mac OS 9, and using the installer. To do this: a) Open System Preferences (Apple menu, System Preferences). b) Select Startup Disk. c) Select your Classic volume, and reboot. To get BACK into Mac OS X when you reboot: a) Go the menus: Control Panel: Startup Disk. b) Select your Mac OS X volume, and reboot. If your Classic is *already* at 9.2.2, I suggest: a) Rebuilding the desktop. You can do this under the Classic pane in System Preferences, selecting the "Advanced" tab, and clicking "Rebuild Desktop". It will take several minutes, and may resolve your problems. b) Reinstalling Classic. Did your Mac come with a Mac OS 9 install CD? If so, you can use it to create a fresh Mac OS 9 install. Let me know if you need any elaboration of any part of the procedure, or if nothing works, or you need more help, or if it does work. Hope this helps. Good luck with your Mac. - supermacman-ga


  • Alright - 1) Have you tried running Mac OS X's built-in Disk Utility? I know you said you ran disk utilities, but did you use the built-in OS X one? If not, do the following: a) Fire up Disk Utility (/Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility), choose your hard drive, and click "Repair Disk Permissions". b) Reboot from your OS X CD, go to the menus and run Disk Utility, and click "Repair Disk". I think the error message may mean a file mismatch between localized versions of the operating system (i.e. international-language versions) and universal versions. Clearly, this goes beyond Classic. If the above does not fix this error, I strongly advise against mucking with Panther's internal workings, as this tends to do more damage. I would suggest an "Archive and Install", which preserves your original system, but places a brand-new install of Panther. You can switch between the two, if necessary. Original files are preserved, which is a big plus. You can also tell Mac OS X to import old settings (i.e. internet, Home directory, etc.) automatically. My bet is that you simply 'Updated' Panther when you installed it on your iMac. Archive and Install tends to fix problems associated with 'Update' installations. More information about Archive and Install: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120 To do this, you need to reboot from your Mac OS X Panther CD, and rather than choose "Update" or "Upgrade", choose "Archive and Install". Good luck. Let me know if anything works/doesn't work. - supermacman-ga


  • Good luck with it. You might be able to get OS X to repair itself using Disk Permissions - the error could have resulted from incorrect permissions on localised files, or something of the like. It doesn't take too long (<10 minutes) and is a good last resort before going to Archive and Install. Let me know how it goes. - supermacman-ga


  • You mentioned that you updated to 10.3.2. We're up to 10.3.4--try running OS X's software update Apple menu -> system preferences -> software update However, ntdaley's response looks rock-solid. Give that a try first; i'd love to hear if it worked out.





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